Those'd be the ones I mean, yep.

I'm certainly not asking you to defend yourself or apologize. As I said, I'm trying to find a bright side.

I, personally, am not sure what the difference is between that, and, say, fox hunting, or live feeding a snake in an area where the prey can in fact escape. I know with fox hunting, the prey has a chance to escape, and it's a wild animal that has lived a natural life. Agreeing with the practice doesn't always hinge on those two things, though. ;)