I have a scarred, shaved cat in an e-collar feeling alternately furious and sorry for herself. She's showing very little sign of grogginess or sleepiness, unfortunately, and so far she's managed to remove the e-collar three times.

the vets gave me an enormous one, which I've cut down to about half its original size so that she can eat, drink and still has some peripheral vision, but can't bend round enough to lick at the incision. I hope they didn't want me to give it back. I don't care anyway, she was far too freaked-out by it at full size - she must have felt like a disembodied head.

the incision's on her flank. only about two stitches by the look of it. very neat job.

I also took Squish in to weigh him when I went to pick her up - they have a platform scale in the waiting room. I've not weighed him since he was a year old and he's filled out and muscled up a great deal in the last eighteen months. He weighs 28.2kg now. Anyone know what that is in pounds? Sixtyish? Bigger than I thought anyhow.

EDIT: She's now removed the e-collar five times in the space of two hours. I'm going to tighten it once more and then - er, dunno. Duct tape?
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


I've taken some! I haven't uploaded 'em yet. Poor Cassie - and poor kittens who are staying shut in the bedroom so they can't wrestle and maul her - although I did let her in briefly to greet them when I brought her home, I'm not risking them fucking with her stitches.

From: [identity profile] bloolark.livejournal.com


Factoid du jour: If you go to google and type in "28.2 kg to pounds", it will tell you. :)

It's 62 pounds. Big Spike! He's as heavy as the race poodle.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


I should've thought of that. Not Spike - the Captain is the same compact forty pounds he's been for the last three years. Squish, though, has finally grown up into a solid great brick shithouse of a dog. Not fat - he has a lovely tuck-up and I can see ribs when the light's right - but BIG.

From: [identity profile] bloolark.livejournal.com


I'm not allowed to post comments until I've woken up enough for both eyes to focus. Please remind me of that.

62 pounds would be a giant BC. :) I'd probably consider Squish weirdly small, but my two dogs are so tall that it really can't be mentioned. ;) I mean, both are somewhere between 27" and 28" at the shoulder. :) A friend visited with their dog (a chow/lab mix that ends up looking a little like a pitty), and the RP and Miss Charlotte dwarfed him.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


I did know someone at the BC boards who had one that big, but he was a bit of a freak (and possibly a mix, though the owner swore not).

Racepoodle is taller and narrower than a Squisher.

And my cat has just removed the e-collar for the FOURTH time. Argh.

From: [identity profile] bloolark.livejournal.com


I should take front, back, and side pictures of both dogs standing next to each other to show the vast difference in body types. :)

Poor Cassie! I've never actually used an e-collar on a cat, but then again, the last time I had a cat spayed was close to a decade ago. I love it when the cats come pre-altered. ;) Maybe leave it off her for a little bit while you're watching and see if she fusses with the incision at all?
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


Yup. Getting a pre-altered cat to go with my pre-altered dogs would have saved me a whole world of trouble, but then it wouldn't have been my Cassie or my Naamah... I can't regret it, not really.

It took under five minuted for her to start licking at the stitches. I've redone the e-collar to use her old cat-collar threaded through the loops instead of the length of bandahe they gave me. I hope that'll work. Cats suck.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


...and she just removed it for the fifth time. DID I MENTION CATS SUCK???

From: [identity profile] kiss-kass.livejournal.com


My grandfather (a vet) always told me any vet who needs more than a half inch incision to do a spay is a bad vet. a two stitch incision is very good! It makes the healing time so much shorter if they can keep the incision small.

Oh, and according to this conversion site, Squish is 62.17 pounds.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


excellent! They are good vets, I've always trusted them. And she's clearly not getting any pain because the first thing she did was leap onto the windowsill - I was hoping she'd be dopey and want to sleep but no. Awkward cow.

Squish is a big spotted bugger. I may have to break my habit of referring to Spike as "the big dog" and Squish as "the little one".

From: [identity profile] kiss-kass.livejournal.com


I probably should have been more specific there... That incision size is on a cat spay. Obviously a 60 pound dog will need a longer incision.

As for the big dog, little dog descriptions, are you sure Spike still isn't bigger? You might have a baby horse on your hands. ;)
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


Nah, Spike weighs 40lb. Squish has outweighed him for some time now - it's just that of the two, Spike has the personality that fills rooms and knocks you over at thirty paces. He's a very intense, concentrated dog. Squish is the quiet cuddly one. It's only when he physically bangs into you you realise how much bigger he is physically - Spike's just bigger in every other way.
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From: [identity profile] slave2tehtink.livejournal.com


Tink wants to know how tall Squish is, so she knows whether or not she can wear high heels when hanging out with him.

Also, don't forget that Spike has HAIR! A big plumey tail and a gorgeous ruff will make a dog look much bigger than he actually is. I bet Spike looks hysterically funny when wet.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


Spike looks like a pink and black weasel when he's wet, but don't tell him I said so.

um... Squish is maybe an inch higher than Spike, so no more than 24". I think Tink's already way taller. Squish has a big broad back and broad shoulders.

From: [identity profile] arkady.livejournal.com


Kyneston is absolutely impossible to keep in a collar; after his last tussle with another cat needed 13 stitches, he was out of the collar before he even got home! However he never once tried to interfere with his stitches and actually took very good care of the wound himself.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


Thankfully, she seems a bit less resentful of the cut-down version, once she realised she could still eat and lick her paws with it on. I really just want to keep her off the incision for the first 24 hours or so - after that she probably won't do it much harm.

(13 stitches, eek!!)

From: [identity profile] arkady.livejournal.com


Eek indeed. The fur's growing back white along the scar now!

He's definitely living proof that there is no such thing as a "free" cat; he's cost me the best part of £500 in vet bills since I rescued him!

He's worth it though. :-)
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


That's always a weird look on a black cat - my mother's Maisie has the same thing where she got her leg trapped in the elastic loop on her collar and the vet said it might have to come off. The leg was fine the next day but there's a white ring where the elastic was.

yeah, free animals never are. My "free cat" hasn't cost me all that much herself, but the four extra free cats that were included have put me in debt all right.

...but also well worth it.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


she's removed it five times now. I have a feeling I'm going to have no option but to leave her to it. Argh!

From: [identity profile] pgh-anarchist.livejournal.com


apparently I'm not the only one curious to find out the conversion of kg to lbs. :)

Poor Cassie. She'll be ok. Look at Frick the Freak, he was fine the same night and he had nothing to remove!!! It wasn't until two weeks later that he began to feel bad (which is unusual, they usually get an infection days after surgery, not two weeks later. He keeps the name Frick the Freak! :))
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


Well, we already knew Cassie had a fully functional set of girl parts! She certainly seems OK so far. She's playing swingball, e-collar and all, bless her.

*kisses for Frick*


From: [identity profile] my3babies.livejournal.com


Wow Squish weighs as much as Chance does.

Poor Cassie she will be back to "normal" in a few days though. Give her ksises for me

From: [identity profile] crusherdisciple.livejournal.com


Ask Cassie if she's ready to party now that she's already got a lampshade on her head. ;D
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


I think the answer's no, since she's making it clear to me the damn thing's not staying on unless I duct-tape her paws together.

And I think I'm out of duct tape. Damn.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


GSPs aren't small dogs. I am a bit surprised he weighs that much more than Spike, they're nearly the same height - but Spike is very narrow and leggy where Squish is broad-backed and broad-chested.

*kisses for Chance*

From: [identity profile] cottonmanifesto.livejournal.com


oh no! poor cassie!! maybe you should leave it off for a bit and see if she picks at her stitches.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


i did that. she did lick them... I dunno if that counts as picking.

she's removed it six times now. I don't think I'm going to get a choice about this.

From: [identity profile] cottonmanifesto.livejournal.com


i don't think licking counts as picking. and, yeah, i don't think you do have a choice.

From: [identity profile] nyecamden.livejournal.com


Aw, the poor dear.

Good she's not going to do any more kitten dropping though :-)

From: [identity profile] mcsassypants.livejournal.com


Oh dear. E-collars, while useful, suck. A lot. I'm sure you remember the whining that I did when we had to keep one on Miss "Let me scrape up your face with this bit of hard sharp plastic while you sleep" Christina.

My cat rescue friend actually has given up on using e-collars on cats, saying that it's more hassle than it's worth after the first couple of days (although I tend to disagree).

Did they give you one that has a velcro fastner or one that actually ties?
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


It ties, and even tied to near-choking tightness, she can still get the fucker off. I have pput it back on her seven times now and I am shooting her with the watergun every time she starts levering it off. Cats suck!

From: [identity profile] mcsassypants.livejournal.com


Yeah, I think the only way we managed to keep the collar on Christina was because the tie bit got tangled in her fur.


I have absolutely no suggestions on how to keep the damn thing on Cassie. Water bottle is probably your best bet.

Here's a cookie of sympathy *cookie*.


Cats suck, but at least they keep life interesting. Just imagine how boring life was with just Spike and Squish in the house! ;)

From: [identity profile] mcsassypants.livejournal.com


I would like to be in the dot_pet_chat. I've got a yahoo account, let me see if I can remember the password once I get home...
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


tonight seems to be... i dunno, not happening. everyone but me has gone.

however, add renata_blackdog (which is me) and I'll make sure and invite you as soon as.
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From: [identity profile] gwenhyffar.livejournal.com


Get an old teeshirt. Cut off the body. Cut 4 little leg holes in it. Get safety pins. Drop cat in teeshirt making sure legs fill holes. Cut off extra material on the cat's back. Pin together with safety pins. Take off collar. And voila!
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


it's possible that I have a T-shirt I can sacrifice, but there are no safety pins in the flat at all - however, I can probably think of something...

duct tape. I mean, stuck to the shirt and not the cat. hmmm...
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


ok, have improvised with t-shirt cut into strips along the back and the strips tied together.

she kept it on thirty seconds. i hate cats.

From: [identity profile] kyra-neko-rei.livejournal.com


*laughs*

Cassie 7? Liz 0.

Don't suppose you know of and have handy some nontoxic substance that will taste bad to Cassie, that you could put on the area? That's the only thing I can think of, but I haven't got the slightest clue what would work (and she might decide that yucky or no, it has to go).

Dunno what else to say. I'm busy having an argument with the poster on my wall regarding its disinclination to stay up (I'm assuming that Cap'n Sparrow is so hot he's melting the tape), so I can't make you any promises about my sanity tonight.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


I can't think of anything I have in the house that I'd feel happy about putting on her that would work. I'm just shooting her with my handy watergun every time she tries to lick it - she seems to be getting the message. Cats suck!

From: [identity profile] kyra-neko-rei.livejournal.com


That's life, ain' it? I lost the argument with the poster; it's sitting curled up on the floor. At least maybe you're having more success with Cassie? *hopes*
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


I'm just watching and hissing and shooting her when she tries to lick it. She's being good and not licking it, so I guess we're OK.

From: [identity profile] ifpetalsfall.livejournal.com


Poor Cassie. I don't know whether this is good or bad, but my vets don't recommend the collar unless you see them licking it. They go through the abdomen, not the flank. I think its risky, but if she won't keep it on maybe you could just watch her and see?
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


That's what I ended up doing, since duct-taping her paws to the floor wasn't really an option. She has licked it a little but it's morning now and she's not taken the stitches out or anything. I'm just watching her and shooting her with the watergun every time she licks near the incision. It is risky and I don't like it but I didn't really get a choice.
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