Calling [livejournal.com profile] peladon, Bill and maybe [livejournal.com profile] watervole too - do you recall the saga of Dorian di Chrysaetos and Jehanne de Valerian?

I still refuse to use her married name. That marriage was annulled, and I was furious when the newsletter referred to her as Jehanne Morgan when they printed our obituaries - ironically, on the same page as our marriage announcement. Damn them, our marriage was the legal one, short as it was... I'd have protested, but for being dead and all.

I'm back in the roleplaying saddle, that's all, and seeing certain parallels. It makes me want to reminisce. I wish to hell I still had the love letters I wrote her. I wish I hadn't destroyed so many brain cells in the intervening years.

Apologies to the 98.9% of the f-list who have no idea what I'm talking about and care less. I'll try not to do it again.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


You know something of the life of their own these people can take on? I walked around in shock for days after Dorian and Jehanne were killed... the worst of it was, he could have saved himself, if he'd been willing to denounce her. No one was more surprised than he was to find he couldn't do it.

From: [identity profile] greenmood.livejournal.com


I totally know what you mean. I don't know what specific RPG you're talking about, but I used to be way into that. I was amused because I sat there for probably close to a minute with this "WTF" look on my face trying to figure out what was going on after I read your post.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


It was called Delenda Est Carthago, it belonged to [livejournal.com profile] watervole, and we played it by snail mail back in the days before everyone had Internet. It was a deeply life-changing experience for me, being involved with it, for many reasons.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com

Everything is on the Intarwebs somewhere


http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/game/delen.html (the contact info is long out of date)

and there's a mention of Delenda in this Wikipedia piece. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play-by-mail_game)

From: [identity profile] dumain.com (from livejournal.com)


Sort of. It's been a while and it wasn't something I was directly involved in (unless my memory is even less reliable than I thought) I just had a quick scan over my collection of old diplos and copies of the Eagle's cry(pack-rat, moi?) to refresh my memory and found the piece of card included with a turn announcing [livejournal.com profile] exalted_mugwump's birth. He's grown.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


Hahaaaaaaaa! Just a bit! My Gods, he was four months old when I first met him.

You still have old Eagle's Cry copies? Can you scan any?

...I know what you mean, one didn't remember things one wasn't involved in so well, and the Jehanne/Dorian affair really only involved Chris and me, and whatsisname who played that murdering bastard Ewan Morgan.

(hold a grudge? moi?

From: [identity profile] dumain.com (from livejournal.com)


Yup still have copies all of them. I don't have a scanner myself and the quality of the printing on th early ones isn't great but I might be able to get a few scans. I've found the ones leading up to the deaths (49-52) it looks like most of the rest of Flamindom was concerned with catching Tubilderborst and electing his successor at the time.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


Oh, my Gods, I'd semi-forgotten the whole Tubilderborst/Oblongs/Jamie Bloody North drama. Now that was some good stuff.

Ah, the memories. Khan Gurbit Chevalier's rousing speeches to his troops... the Border Horse... the Fireguard... rum and raisin ice cream in a satin-lined dungeon...

From: [identity profile] dumain.com (from livejournal.com)


The whole Tubilderborst thing was hard to forget although I have forgotten the name of Jamie North's sockpuppet girlfriend. A sorcerer just killed half the college of Cardinals lets make sorcery legal...

IIRC Cardinal Drachenfel survived because David was camped in the garden and he was therefore deemed not to be in the college (or something of the sort).

I distinctly remember Delenda meets with Graham Dixon in the library his ear pressed against the floor listening to the plotting below in the kitchen.
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


Jill Candlish. Yes, there were parts of that whole episode that left a bad taste... like Jamie writing her turns for her. And we lost one of (in my never-humble opinion) our best players, Mark Green, over it. Jamie had flair and he was hard not to like in person, but he really buggered the game balance.

I never got very far with the listening thing (oh yes, I tried), although I did once persuade another player that I was Jill Candlish. I didn't tell him I was, you understand, just didn't correct him...

From: [identity profile] dumain.com (from livejournal.com)


I hesitate to remind you but she wasn't Jehanne de Valerian in the marriage announcement either. The report of their capture has Dorian trying to do a runner while Jehanne was fighting a superior force was he related to Sir Robin?
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com


That's pretty much it. Although, in fact, she told him to run away and save himself, bless her valiant heart. He didn't need telling twice, either... he did truly love her, but that didn't stop him being a self-serving bastard. If he could have got away clean at that point he'd have survived.

And no, she wasn't referred to as Jehanne De Valerian, but her marriage to that scumbag Ewan Morgan had been annulled by then, and therefore that's how I will refer to her. It's a matter of principle.

From: (Anonymous)

On memory....


THe talent for self destruction is one that has sadly been most well developed in many. And of all, the Fool-minion ability to take shelter by seeking the hurricane's door was ever beyond belief.

Santuary was offered, and safe passage indeed, was offered, and both refused. The matter could have been rendered safe outside of that refusal, but compulsion was never our way. Whatever others may have spoken when your Pontiff took better judgement in similar trials.

That the flames took the College was also, and by my word and honour, not of my doing. Nor that of mine. Nor the Caliphal Intelligence Agency. How could it be so, since no such group ever walked?

That Jehanne fell, and not a dungeon step involved, was of sorrow. That Fortress Feyer did not was a matter of time and circumstance. There were those both sides of Jehanne's beds... er, bed... that had intent by their word, but far fewer and none that held word as valued as the Caliphate.

And do not forget, if we speak of beds, that the daughter of the Kharijis shared many, and not all her sheets were left crimson...

It is strage, and past strange, to wake in these times. The days we speak of were long past, and longer yet. But they live and they breathe, and they are a part of us, as we were and are a part of them. Does the Caliphate yet stand in some distant dream? Does the Isle of Ghosts yet live to its name, and the floating land still wander at the gift of tide and wind, and mayhap the one that broods upon the mount of fire? i sleep more than wake, and dream mmore than sleep. But ever I remain... at least in part....


Ibrahim Yunus
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com

Re: On memory....


I had forgotten the daughter of the Kharijis, you know. Thank you.

Also, Ewan Morgan and Jehanne's marriage was never consummated, which is how it could be deemed never to have existed. She told me so herself, and surely she wouldn't have lied?

*grin*


From: [identity profile] dumain.com (from livejournal.com)

Re: On memory....


IIRC the Caliphate (at least your one) fell before the game shut down so no it doesn't stand in some distant dream. Did you forget your lj login or just think it would be inappropriate to use while claiming that reminiscing about Delenda was "strange and past strange".

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Re: On memory....


While I live and my dreams, then the Caliphate has not fallen.

While a single Khariji walked, the Caliphate has not fallen.

While the floating land yet danced the waves, then do not think the Caliphate is past, or the Hiyiros or that which birthed them is gone.

Caliphs live, and Caliphs die. Armies come and armies go. And others might have lived, and others may have died had I not had need of sleep.

There is a land where the dream we speak of yet lives. And there is a land where a hundred hundred of thy ' friends' may yet see thee ride from my camp bearing much gold and my gratefull thanks for a recent victory... {grin}.

That which was, is. That which will be... will be.

That which I am, I remain.

And my voice comes as it it is spoken... such is the way of things here. {big grin}.


Selim Huseyin

From: [identity profile] dumain.com (from livejournal.com)

Re: On memory....


I've finally caught you in an outright lie "need of sleep" indeed:)

From: (Anonymous)

Re: On memory....


I spoke of my family, and not of mine avatar. The one that walks the land called Real is as he has ever been. {grin}.


Selim Huseyin
Ibrahim Yunus
Kamal al Kadir
Selim Huseyin

Sephiranoth ShadowSeeker

and

Sephir DeathDancer

From: (Anonymous)

Re: Senile I am


As ever, I would have no issue were others to judge me so, and plan with that as their truth. {grin}.

I remember the time ye speak of as one most interesting. I had... interests... in respect of Fortress Feyer, and it seemed both sides of that bed were willing to speak on the matter. And both sides made offers, but none of those offers were made whole. As was expected... And then the daughter of the Kharijis moved among the words and deeds there and all came to naught. But in time it might have been else... The Caliph had made the matter of Iparti more of import, and whatever any thought, I moved to the Caliph's will. When the Caliph knew what it was, of course...


Ibrahim Yunus
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From: [identity profile] lizblackdog.livejournal.com

"I had... interests*


Did you, now? Being only slightly less senile - and a good deal more reckless - than you, my darling, my memories of the time are... somewhat incomplete. That's a story I would dearly love to hear, as I seem to have heard no more than half of it at the time.

Jehanne was perfectly capable of playing both sides against the middle; and yet, I'll swear she loved me truly. It was a very good match, in some respects.
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